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CulinaryAlchemist Pro BakeSpacer

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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:43 am Post subject: |
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| BobtheDude wrote: | | I've also had some seriously strong flavored whites. I had one once at my brothers once (we've tried over and over to remember the name, but for some reason it didn't stick in our minds... heh) that we had with a spicy tomato sauce and went really well with it. |
A lot of California Chardonnay tends to be VERY strong flavored... Lots of oak resin, which I am not particularly fond of although I do like a Chardonnay/Semillon blend. (I have a personal Vendetta against Chardonnay give me Pinot Grigio/Gris or Sauvignon/Fume Blanc or Viognier) _________________ ~ Shane
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:50 am Post subject: |
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| spryte wrote: | | hehe... I was already thinking... what can I make with red wine if I don't like this.... I think I'll freeze unlikeable wines into wine cubes for sauces... does wine freeze ok? |
I like burgandy mushrooms, or sometimes I make a wine reduction sauce for my steak or pork.
As for freezing, I dunno, doesn't last that long around here. LOL |
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BobtheDude Capo di tutti Capi

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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Spryte: Hmm, I don't know if wine freezes. But I know there are some vacuum sealing dealies that work well and keep it reasonable fresh for long periods. If I could remember the name of mine I would recommend it.
Shane: Oddly enough, even though I really like whites I don't know much about them. I cook a lot with reds, so I know a bit more about them. What did Chardonnay do to you to warrant a vendetta, if I may ask?  _________________ Cooking Stuff
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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Chardonnay is a bit too dry for me but I can tolerate it if it has a smooth buttery finish. I had a Seyval Blanc that I feel in LOVE with at the winery. Jim got on the list for the grape juice and made like 2 cases of the stuff, but it ended up being dryer than the one at the winery so I used it all summer in sangrias LOL (thanks to Michele )
I like Pinot Grigio too, but most white wines I like crisp and fruity....
I do like my reds oaky, but not my whites, is that wierd?
Something I haven't tried yet, Cabernet Sauvignon, are those usually dry? or is there a semi-dry to semi-sweet someone could recommend? |
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ImStuffed Over 10,000 Posts Club

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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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I use to only drink white zin...berringers brand. Now I find it too sweet since I started drinking merlot. I prefer the red wines also cuz most of the white wines I've had are dry and i cant like it. Although I did have a Clos de Bois Chardonnay that I enjoyed with my mom once. I think it was chardonnay. shoot, now I can't remember. figures. never mind. _________________ Danielle
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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| BobtheDude wrote: | What did Chardonnay do to you to warrant a vendetta, if I may ask?  |
Ha Ha... this is gonna sound like I am ranting, and I guess I kinda am but...
And I'm NOT a wine snob... I'm really not...
The main reason is that I live in California. When I go to buy wine down here, 60% of what is available is Chardonnay because that is what California produces... the problem is, California has ruined Chardonnay... why?
Because the Chardonnay grape is a weed...
It will grow anywhere... any climate, any soil, and it's a high yield grape regardless. (Ho boy, My farm boy roots are showin)
Thus "big business" planted the arid parts of California with Chardonnay cause it was the only grape that would grow in the poor soil and still produce... But even though the grape yield is still high, it doesn't develop good flavor leading to a lot of substandard grapes, which were STILL made into wine, which tastes watered down SO they end up OVER oaking it to give it some flavor. Thus the propensity for Chardonnay to be so oaky.
There is A LOT of *bad* chardonnay out there.... and I mean A LOT.. and it all comes from California...
Don't get me wrong though, I have to agree with Danielle... Clois du Bois makes a REALLY good Chardonnay that I love (one of the few) the oak isn't too strong and you can actually taste the "butter" that it is suppose to be known for... Kendall-Jackson make a good one as well...
It ends up being such a crap shoot most of the time, that I just don't bother. But it's e v e r y w h e r e down here...
staring me in the face... Haunting my dreams... Taunting me endlessly  _________________ ~ Shane
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, I understand now Shane. That was an educational (and amusing, lol) rant. I will make sure to not get Chardonnay from California. I like my Scotch oakie, not my wine. I love that butter flavor you get from some wines that you guys have been mentioning. Man, all this talking about it has given me a thirst. Now I'm definitely getting a bottle of wine tonight. Heh. _________________ Cooking Stuff
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